number one, iraq was being wound down by george bush and, fortunately, barack obama followed the blueprint that he followed. but he wasn't able to get a status of forces agreement, so now iraq is falling apart again. in afghanistan if she wants to consider that a success, 70% of the casualties in afghanistan happened in the four and a half years of president obama and not in the eight years of george bush. that's not exactly a success story either. and our stature around the world is falling apart. bill: ebony? >> well, i would disagree with that respectfully, lars, in terms of stature. that old you referenced, bill, that's american perception. if we talk about international perception of america's standing, i think it vastly differs. we have to look no further than the international response to the horrible thicks going on in -- things going on in the philippines. bill: but she canically, ebony, to rebuild confidence and trust in the united states, do people trust the united states more now than they did five years ago? do they have confidence -- >> bill, i would say -- bill: -- now more